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and experienced civil society by going to boston symphony and best of all, enjoyed pickled tongue sandwiches in brooklyn, he was leading when he was a young man. i want to frame my remarks today a round hue fong's ridings which are exemplified in this because of my great respect for him and affection for him, i want to try to convey the majesty of what he has done but in a friendly, constructive way, pushed a little bit on a few points. specifically i want to engage hue fong's work in four respect that i trust will aluminate broader points about the challenges of law reform in china. the first concerns the chinese tradition. hue fong takes great pride in his heritage as he should but he does not view it prior to engagement with the west in the nineteenth century as providing abundant resources for the construction of rule of law today. i understand full well hue fong's desire to avoid dimensions of t t t t t t t t ts that constrain all, and i am aware because i argue now for the greater attention to the chinese past how some observers in china do invoke it to avoid talking about reform today
-- to deal with that is to say no, that is not to. we're in boston, we're in kuwait. we have 2000 mosques. i don't think a straight effective quite frankly. i think a much better approach is an approach which combined with the kind of things we do with exchange programs and other softer means, public diplomacy 2.0, to get to a point where people can believe that. that the pernicious belief. it's wrong but people can believe. it doesn't mean they will kill us. so those are the goals. it is a battle of ideas, but it's a battle of ideas that will take a long time to win. i do think and public diplomacy we sometimes forget the imports of that ideological struggle, which may be the most important of all. >> i think i would say it somewhat differently but you've heard me say earlier that i believe quite passionately that public diplomacy is there to ensure that everything we do that we achieve our foreign policy goals and objectives, which frankly very country to country, region to region. and so in some parts of the world, some of the struggles we've been talking about are higher than they are in
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